. >> jeff, this is essentially the government of the united states or the state of florida going after somebody saying that they've committed second degree murder. but then also saying maybe we're wrong about that, it could be manslaughter, as well, to argue mark's point. >> i don't think there's anything unfair about that. it's not a different crime than they were charged with. it is a lesser included offense. it is evidence that the jury could find beyond a reasonable doubt a crime that the defendant committed. this is not a game about which side can prove what. this is trying to determine whether someone -- >> yes, it is. >> -- someone committed a very serious crime. >> it's not -- >> let me finish. if they -- the jury can conclude that he committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt, whether it's manslaughter or murder two, then he should be sentenced accordingly, because that's what the criminal justice system is supposed to determine, whether people committed a crime. >> okay. understand here, they put you on trial for second degree murder. you're the one who is being accused of t